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File Size: 2279 KB

Print Length: 240 pages

Publisher: IVP Academic (January 14, 2010)

Publication Date: January 14, 2010

Sold by: Amazon Digital Services LLC

Language: English

ASIN: B002VJJW3O

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In explaining the differences between the Christian East and West, different people take different approaches. One may begin by explaining doctrinal differences between the Roman Catholics and the Orthodox (the filioque, Papal Supremacy and Infallibility, the Orthodox theology of Uncreated Grace, etc...) or one may take an historical approach. For the common faithful, however, the answer often given is simply that Western denominations and Orthodoxy have a "different feel." The mindset, or phronema, of Orthodoxy is just different and therefore hard for a non-Orthodox to understand. One priest put it to me this way: Some say that the difference between Protestants and Catholics lies in the fact that they ask the same questions but get different answers. They go on to say that the difference between the Orthodox and the West, then, is that they simply ask different questions. However - this priest went on to say - it gets even more confusing. In some cases, the Orthodox ask the same questions, but their words mean completely different things...In trying to get to this difference, that "different feel" so often noticed but rarely given definition, James Payton, Jr. has written an excellent - I would say even astoundingly good - book in an attempt to explain Orthodoxy to the Western Christian. This explanation is often so difficult, both because it is simply hard to put into words and because, once put into words, the different mindsets of East and West make conveying the meaning of those words like speaking a different language, that the success with which Payton accomplished this task makes this book not only a good read but, I would say, a necessary companion to Metropolitan Kallistos Ware's "The Orthodox Church." This is true of both the Western convert to Orthodoxy and Orthodox individuals in general as, in explaining Eastern theology, Payton clarifies much of what the West believes, as well.While reading the text, I was pleasantly surprised by how thorough Payton was. No less than 5 times (and I think more), I was reading and began to think, "This is all good, but I really think he needs to include something about..." and literally the next sentence or section would address my very concern. Clearly, Payton understands Orthodoxy about as best a non-Orthodox individual could... In fact, I found certain explanations of his - for instance, his explanation of the Orthodox theology of icons - to far surpass many similar such attempts made by Orthodox authors. With a few minor exceptions, I found Payton's explanation of Orthodox theology to be spot on.This being said, there certainly is some room for improvement. First, though Payton says in the Epilogue that he knows he did not cover every topic and never intended to, a couple chapters could have been included. For instance, I would have liked to see something concerning the Orthodox theology of Heaven and Hell (explaining that Hell is the love of God experienced as pain and suffering for those who did not purify themselves of the passions...) or, connected to this, the Orthodox focus on God as love rather than the preoccupation of some in the West to focus on a God of judgment. Second, some examples of what he wrote about, such as scenes from the Lives of the Saints, would have been helpful in making something very abstract - such as the theology of the Uncreated Light - more tangible. And third (and this is a larger issue), Payton's stance as an "outsider" to Orthodoxy, while helpful in his ability to express things in a way clear to the Western mind, also hindered him from reaching the essence of the difference between East and West. Payton understandably wanted to create a "fair" presentation, neither elevating Orthodoxy too high nor denigrating the West. In all fairness to him, even if he were Orthodox, trying to explain these things without unintentionally offending a non-Orthodox reader with something that appeared to be bitter triumphalism would be difficult.And yet, looking at Orthodox as just another - albeit very well done - version of Christianity with its own particular vision and character is to miss the heart or Orthodoxy's self understanding: it is the unerring, undivided, perfect Body of Christ. This Body of Christ, while imperfectly ministered to by man, is nonetheless the Vessel of the Holy Spirit, the Pillar of Truth, and the most perfect Hospital for ill man. When Christ Ascended, He yet remained with us in One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church, undivided and unconquerable. When one does not view the Church as such, Orthodoxy becomes just another "tradition" of Christianity which can simply be "tried out" or from which one can simply implement the desirable aspects into his own tradition. This misses the basis for Orthodoxy's self-understanding. If one does not recognize this about how Orthodox views itself, it is akin to training for months or years for a marathon and then staying home the day of the race: you may have made yourself look like a runner, you may have a great understanding of what runners go through, but you gave yourself no chance to win the prize.Again, I understand Payton's unwillingness to venture into such theology, first because he is not Orthodox himself and second because, without great delicacy, this could turn many off to the riches of Orthodoxy. However, I recommend that, if one wants to go deeper than Payton and get more to the essence of the differences, you can read these two articles, both available online: Metropolitan Anthony Khrapovitsky's "Way Apart: What is the Difference Between Orthodox and Western Confessions?" and Metropolitan Hierotheos Vlachos' "The Difference Between Orthodox Spirituality and Other Traditions." Type either into Google to find them.Despite these shortcomings, however, I still cannot but call this a necessary text, and I thank God that Payton has written it.

I just came across this book rummaging around on the Amazon site. I thought it looked interesting and so bought it. Reading through the first chapter of this book I thought I was in for a major disappointment however as I got into the second chapter, this book really blossomed into a true treasure.I am a person who has moved from the Protestant West into the Orthodox East and this book elaborates many of the reasons why I took this move. Being interested in history, and as a Christian, the history of the Church, I found it hard to reconcile my contemporary church experience with that that I had read about of the Church in the past. My transition took about 10 years, but perhaps if I had had this book my trip may have been a lot quicker.The author is an historian who studies the differences between Roman and Greek culture and this may have well suited him in a special way for the writing of this book. There are many, many, instances of finely nuanced phraseology expressing very fine detail of theological thought. I am impressed by this guy's very careful terminology when explaining theological differences of East and West. I think I made over 100 highlights in this book. I must say it is not often that I do that, but some of the ideas were particularly well expressed and I hope to be able to use my highlights as a reference, perhaps in future discussions with the various Christians I meet on life's way.This item has a rather extensive bibliography at the back of the book with many famous Orthodox writers. The bibliography has several categories, enabling the reader to find items on various subjects quickly.I read this book in Kindle form and as a pleasant change there were hardly any typos; in fact it is probably one of the better Kindle books that I've read from a production viewpoint.If you've been thinking about what's gone wrong with Western Christianity and the true nature and purpose of the Church you may find this book of extreme interest.

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